Comments on: Kodak Dental Imaging Software (KDIS) a new CBCT DICOM viewer hitting the market very soon

By: michaelstn

michaelstn — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:51:26 +0000

Hello, Jose. I don’t think we’ll be selling, the markdown would he an enormous loss and we would still need to replace the machine, incurring additional expense. Besides, the hardware seems great, it is the software that is so objectionable.

We have installed the latest upgrade, they now call it CS 3d Imaging. It is extremely slow to launch but does have a couple of small improvements that should have been present from the beginning: MIP, the TMJ tool (which is nearly identical to iCAT Vision’s), and automatic placement of a default pano curve. It has a separate tool to change the field of view height which is separate to two ‘function tabs” (Curved and Custom [the new TMJ screen].) Use is slow but seems less annoying than pulling a pano to the side or zooming all the way out to move the adjustment arrows. The other HUGE improvement is that screen captures are now the same as your actual workspace (minus the huge toolbar on the left) and not a tiny thumbnail. Lack of annotation tools still limits its utility. Reports still do not print at full resolution.

There are other improvements, but it is still behind where iCAT Vision was two years ago in many areas. With the TMJ tool and extensive implant library, it is finally usable as a primary diagnostic & planning tool. Perhaps I’ll get around to a complete review. If I do, I’ll share it here or perhaps a link to my underused blog. My squeaky wheel is finally getting greased.

By: jose reyes

jose reyes — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:11:41 +0000

iidel solutions is intrested in referring or selling your product kodak dental image machine

By: michaelstn

michaelstn — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:16:13 +0000

Thanks for that contact information, I’ll try that route also.

It is a pity that fine hardware can be so badly handicapped by poor software, but that has been the case with computers since the beginning. With your hardware problem, you’ve been doubly-blessed. Good luck!

By: Wisam Al-Rawi

Wisam Al-Rawi — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:25:29 +0000

I think you should contact Kodak directly and ask them to add those important features to their software. They usually try to help. I recommend Jordan Reiss who is the US Sales Director jordan.reiss@carestream.com / Office: 800.262.8144, ext. 72009

There is a new version out there that has new features. TMJ was there last time I checked. I guess it is time to review it here. The only setback I am having right now is getting my workstation put together as Dell messed it up big time.
To be honest with you I have been trying to get the version of iCAT software to work on Windows 7 and I have been contacting Xoran and Imaging Sciences for two weeks and no one has a clue on how to do that although version 4.0.28 supports Win 7 environment.

By: michaelstn

michaelstn — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 06:11:40 +0000

The KDI software will read standard DICOM datasets, but cannot export CT data to DICOM standard. It can export a DICOM of an intraoral periapical, but that doesn’t help with 3D and seems to be a major oversight. We had a software tech from our local medical imaging/radiologist service here today. If he develops a system that can convert Kodak’s proprietary XML header files into DICOMDIR for use in their PACS system, I’ll announce it here. Some software can process the DCM files without requiring the DICOMDIR file, but most radiologists do not use those programs.

On the other hand, KDI is missing filters or MIP, measurements are fixed on the screen not to 3D space, has no Hounsfield measurement tool, has no TMJ tools, output is limited to 800 x 600 pixel images that do not reflect how far you are zoomed into an image, etc. No point in transferring our iCAT scans into this system, one-at-a-time, since our old software is better.

The scan images are nice, the extra bits-per-voxel resolve soft tissue better and the standard 0.3 mm voxel size is notably better than 12 bits at 0.4 mm.

By: Wisam Al-Rawi

Wisam Al-Rawi — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:48:33 +0000

It is unfortunate when we get lack of standards and everyone is so protective of their own stuff. What made computers so great is their interoperability. Take for example USB sticks, Blu-ray discs or JPEG for images. If companies would sit together and put a standard that will work universally it will benefit users and themselves much more that limiting the technology to their hardware. They will be leaders and get their equipment out faster. Try getting that into the heads of the decision makers is not easy.

By: Kodak offers their 3D dental imaging software to Marcilan users! | Cone Beam CT (CBCT) | MARCILAN

Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:02:25 +0000

[...] as a reminder, KDIS 3D has the capability to load DICOM volumetric dataset from Kodak and non-Kodak systems making it a very nice alternative to more expensive 3rd party software like InVivo and OnDemand 3D. [...]

By: michaelstn

michaelstn — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 06:13:55 +0000

Too bad our new Kodak system won’t work with our E4D. Of course, since iCAT First Gen update and upgrade information seems unavailable from Imaging Sciences, I doubt it will work with our first generation machine anyway. Backward compatibility seems unlikely.

I’ll post interesting experiences with the Kodak software here. First up: transferring 4000 scans into it.

By: Mark hillebrandt

Mark hillebrandt — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:43:36 +0000

Just to clarify, the new software from E4D that integrates restorations and implants with cone beam CT data will work exclusivley with the i-CAT, Gendex GXCB-500 HD and the Soredex Scanora. These three cone beam companies were involved in the development of the system with E4D which is why the integration is limited to their cone beam models.

Regards,

Mark Hillebrandt
Director of Product Management
Imaging Sciences International

By: michaelstn

michaelstn — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:33:09 +0000

Our office may be purchasing this entire system (hardware & software) in the next couple of weeks. I’ll post a review and answer questions when I get a chance to play with it.

What I know so far: It integrates with Kodak PracticeWorks management software, runs on high-end Intel hardware (I assume Windows, I doubt Linux or Mac) and when purchased with the hardware, can be installed on unlimited workstations. You may also include a full-featured copy with patient data sent to another doctor and imports DICOM multifile, uncompressed.

We’ve heard that it will integrate with our E4D CAD/CAM system for implant crowns, update due early 2011.